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MEET PAOLA HARRIS
Establishing a New Science of Human Experience
By Dr.John Mack
Lecture Transcrition for Audio tape
Florence Italy
November 16th 2003
PROVIDED BY PAOLA HARRIS
Thank you to the Gruppo Academico Scandicci GAUS and Paola Harris for inviting me to Florence for this
conference. What I'd like to do first is give an overview of the "so called Abduction phenomena and lead into questions
of how do we know or what are the ways of knowing when we are dealing with something this strange . I also will
discuss the implications of this and phenomena like this for our world.
I am a Psychiatrist and Psychoanalyst and I have a special interest in extraordinary experience.I'd like to discuss how
our language shapes the experience.For instance, words like "abduction" and alien shape the conversation a certain
way. The word "abduction" is off in two different ways first, first, it implies that every person who has this
encounter experience is taken against his or her will like an abduction in human terms . It also implies that each person
who has an experience is physically taken , t he whole body is taken up into a craft, which is also not true in all
instances.
Another aspect of contact is transferring information to humans telepathically or showing us images. A lot of this
information has had to do with what our species are doing that is destructive to our planet. It is as if what we are doing
ecologically with the planet is creating some kind of larger problem in the Galaxy. Also" the Experiencers "are given
certain skills, certain capabilities that they were not given in their schooling.
For instance they may discover that they may have a great artistic ability that comes from this contact. Also they may
have been given important mathematical and scientific knowledge that goes way beyond anything they learned in
school and yet they are downloaded the most complicated mathematical formulas and when the scientist and
Physicist recognize that there is truth coming from these individuals and sometimes more than the physicists
themselves know, they recognize it as genuine. I have personally seen many examples of these.
I'd also like to speak about the question of evidence, how do we know that this experience is true? How do we
evaluate these reports and how do we determine truthfulness. For example when I evaluate, I become clear that people
of sound mind have no reason for making up this story. It is sure that they did not get it from the media because often
they know more than the media. But there is something missing in what we have to evaluate or determine when a
person tells us a story so bizarre whether he/she is telling the truth and whether we should take them seriously. But as
yet we
have had no criteria to evaluate the truth of such encounters. So I am working on just this and I'm just beginning to
establish a science of Human Experience.
Now in traditional science when we observe certain phenomenon, we bring some objectivity to what we have studied.
But when you are trying to understand something so profound and important to a person you can not stand back but
you must enter "into "the consciousness of that person. So what the critics will say "what you are learning
is too subjective" here is the problem, if you are going to learn about something this profound, then the learning needs
to be "intersubjuctive. "
So still there is the problem of discovering the truth. If I say it just feels like they are telling the truth, then this is not
enough.
So we have to start with the "holistic way of knowing". This is close to what we know as intuitive knowing. It is like a
knowing of the heart and a knowing of the spirit that has been part of traditional cultures for hundreds and thousands
of years but has been lost in the west.
I received some help in this matter from Vatican representative Monsignor Corrado Balducci who says "we in the
church take this UFO Encounter Phenomena very seriously and the reason for that is, that there seem to be so many
reliable witnesses. In the church, we have had centuries of having to evaluate miraculous reports by some kind of
criteria and so they had to develop the notion of the "reliable witnesses."
So I began to apply this idea of the reliable witness to these cases. How do we know who is a reliable witness? For my
cases, it not only had to do with the fact just that these people who were trustworthy reported something but it had
to do with the power of their communication that came across to me. I would experience with these people when they
would be reliving their experience, the most powerful vibration. I was in the presence of something awesome in
its intensity .The experiencers themselves would give language to that. They would say something like "every cell in
my body was vibrating"! When you are in the presence of that, it passes your judging mind and you feel it in your
whole being.
Going back to "What is a reliable witness", it has to do with a resonance between the person who is reporting or
sharing the experience and the clinician. It might be called "a direct knowing".
You just know that with your whole being that this person is telling the truth. There are other examples of this "direct
knowing" as demonstrated when the Tribunal that was hearing testimony of the torture in Bosnia questioned
witnesses. The Judge said after hearing the testimony of a particular woman about how she was tortured." I do not
need any more testimony". I can just tell that it is not possible that she is not telling the truth. That is sufficient.
Now everyone knows torture exists. That is accepted.
But it is not accepted in our society that these UFO encounters exist. Therefore you need to have evidence of a
pattern of such similarities that is showing up in hundreds, if not, thousands of cases. One of these experiencers is
helping me out with this statement she made about witnesses." When a witness speaks, all recognize that they have
been in another realm.
Sincerity and truth and power of spirit are just as measurable as inches and pounds but not in the same way."
It is ironic that experiences like alien abduction encounters, UFOs, Crop Circles, and near-death experiences are called
anomalies. In another words in our culture, what lies outside the realm of the cultural agreement, about what is real is
called anomalous.
Therefore a huge amount of human experience is called anomalous when I have discussed this with Native Americans,
and they say it is not an anomalous.
We know about this. It is part of the human experience.
Estabishing a new "worldview"
In the last minutes, I want to talk about matter of a worldview and how it works. It has always been referred to as a
paradigm and it has more of a scientific. But I prefer to call it worldview because it refers to something bigger. A
worldview is the way we organize reality. It is the way we believe things work. In a way it is like an instrument of
navigation. Our worldviews is what holds the human psyche together. What I came to realize with that
Harvard Committee was that I was threatening the scientific medical world View by which they were living..
What has been the dominant worldview in our society could be called Neutonian-Carticianism or anthropocentric,
humanist. It is a worldview that puts the human being as top of the cosmic hierarchy of intelligence.
The simplest term for this is, is that which I call Scientific Materialism.
In this world view, matter and energy is the primary reality and there is no larger intelligence in the Cosmos .The
principle method of study is objectivitive reality which separates the investigator from the matter that is being
investigated. Now in recent years, this view, which has dominated our society, is failing. It is failing in every important
element that the worldview is supposed to serve. First there is a huge amount of phenomena, which it can not explain
nor deal with. There is no method of study for many things that we are talking about today.
Secondly, it leads to terrible destructiveness because it treats the entire planet as simply physical resources to fight
over by who are the most powerful and most important countries.
Thirdly, "scientific materialism" does not give human beings any real satisfaction. It leaves us without spirit and it
leaves us with an empty feeling. Because all it has to offer are more and more material things
Now we have new emerging worldviews that are different. In this worldview, there is intelligence dwelling in the
universe. That experience which happens to my clients is one example of the intelligence dwelling in the universe and
the beings that have come to my clients are another example.
The Crop Formations are also evidence of this intelligence that is trying to communicate with us. Also it is a model of
the universe and us in it which says that everything is connected with everything else and we know that "cutting edge"
physics is supporting this worldview. So it includes not only new ways of knowing but it also involves a spiritual
awakening.
This change which is happening around us is met with enmity and a great deal of resistance because there's a huge
psychological economic and political investment in maintaining the Old World view.
I will give you one examples of the UFO resistance because books being written which discuss this new paradigm are
being called "new age, psudoscientific, psychcentric in order to dismiss them as out of hand because some people who
write such books do not hold themselves responsible to any scientific standards what so ever.
I will conclude by speaking about the implications of this new worldview. We see around us all kinds of forces which
are supporting the emergence of this way of thinking.People around the planet are opening up to new ways of
thinking.Groups , like the GAUS (GRUPPO ACADEMICO UFOLOGICO SCANDICCI), are committed to the new
emerging paradigm.
How would this planet be different if the emerging world view became be the dominant world view?
We would be connected to all living beings not just those around us, and with all nature and spirit which would make it
impossible for us to treat nature in such a exploitative way. For example we would be able to identify with other
peoples, other religions and with all animals so we would not treat them just as products to consume. With this deeper
reality ,we could appreciate that we are connected to the Divine, the creative principle which would be more fulfilling
than the material focus that has been so dominant today.
So it would be global like a" global awakening of the heart."instead of global exploitation, a word that is has that
connotation today.
I might add "opening of the heart " has been a fundamental aspect of alien encounter experience I learned from my
dealing with experiencers.
Sometimes experiencers get information from these beings that we are not just a menace to the Earth but we are a
menace to the Galaxy .
In conclusion ,as this emerging paradigm this emerging world view, takes hold, we might become more responsible
citizens of a galaxy instead of becoming the eminent menace we appear to be!
By Dr.John Mack
Lecture Transcrition for Audio tape
Florence Italy
November 16th 2003
PROVIDED BY PAOLA HARRIS
Thank you to the Gruppo Academico Scandicci GAUS and Paola Harris for inviting me to Florence for this
conference. What I'd like to do first is give an overview of the "so called Abduction phenomena and lead into questions
of how do we know or what are the ways of knowing when we are dealing with something this strange . I also will
discuss the implications of this and phenomena like this for our world.
I am a Psychiatrist and Psychoanalyst and I have a special interest in extraordinary experience.I'd like to discuss how
our language shapes the experience.For instance, words like "abduction" and alien shape the conversation a certain
way. The word "abduction" is off in two different ways first, first, it implies that every person who has this
encounter experience is taken against his or her will like an abduction in human terms . It also implies that each person
who has an experience is physically taken , t he whole body is taken up into a craft, which is also not true in all
instances.
Another aspect of contact is transferring information to humans telepathically or showing us images. A lot of this
information has had to do with what our species are doing that is destructive to our planet. It is as if what we are doing
ecologically with the planet is creating some kind of larger problem in the Galaxy. Also" the Experiencers "are given
certain skills, certain capabilities that they were not given in their schooling.
For instance they may discover that they may have a great artistic ability that comes from this contact. Also they may
have been given important mathematical and scientific knowledge that goes way beyond anything they learned in
school and yet they are downloaded the most complicated mathematical formulas and when the scientist and
Physicist recognize that there is truth coming from these individuals and sometimes more than the physicists
themselves know, they recognize it as genuine. I have personally seen many examples of these.
I'd also like to speak about the question of evidence, how do we know that this experience is true? How do we
evaluate these reports and how do we determine truthfulness. For example when I evaluate, I become clear that people
of sound mind have no reason for making up this story. It is sure that they did not get it from the media because often
they know more than the media. But there is something missing in what we have to evaluate or determine when a
person tells us a story so bizarre whether he/she is telling the truth and whether we should take them seriously. But as
yet we
have had no criteria to evaluate the truth of such encounters. So I am working on just this and I'm just beginning to
establish a science of Human Experience.
Now in traditional science when we observe certain phenomenon, we bring some objectivity to what we have studied.
But when you are trying to understand something so profound and important to a person you can not stand back but
you must enter "into "the consciousness of that person. So what the critics will say "what you are learning
is too subjective" here is the problem, if you are going to learn about something this profound, then the learning needs
to be "intersubjuctive. "
So still there is the problem of discovering the truth. If I say it just feels like they are telling the truth, then this is not
enough.
So we have to start with the "holistic way of knowing". This is close to what we know as intuitive knowing. It is like a
knowing of the heart and a knowing of the spirit that has been part of traditional cultures for hundreds and thousands
of years but has been lost in the west.
I received some help in this matter from Vatican representative Monsignor Corrado Balducci who says "we in the
church take this UFO Encounter Phenomena very seriously and the reason for that is, that there seem to be so many
reliable witnesses. In the church, we have had centuries of having to evaluate miraculous reports by some kind of
criteria and so they had to develop the notion of the "reliable witnesses."
So I began to apply this idea of the reliable witness to these cases. How do we know who is a reliable witness? For my
cases, it not only had to do with the fact just that these people who were trustworthy reported something but it had
to do with the power of their communication that came across to me. I would experience with these people when they
would be reliving their experience, the most powerful vibration. I was in the presence of something awesome in
its intensity .The experiencers themselves would give language to that. They would say something like "every cell in
my body was vibrating"! When you are in the presence of that, it passes your judging mind and you feel it in your
whole being.
Going back to "What is a reliable witness", it has to do with a resonance between the person who is reporting or
sharing the experience and the clinician. It might be called "a direct knowing".
You just know that with your whole being that this person is telling the truth. There are other examples of this "direct
knowing" as demonstrated when the Tribunal that was hearing testimony of the torture in Bosnia questioned
witnesses. The Judge said after hearing the testimony of a particular woman about how she was tortured." I do not
need any more testimony". I can just tell that it is not possible that she is not telling the truth. That is sufficient.
Now everyone knows torture exists. That is accepted.
But it is not accepted in our society that these UFO encounters exist. Therefore you need to have evidence of a
pattern of such similarities that is showing up in hundreds, if not, thousands of cases. One of these experiencers is
helping me out with this statement she made about witnesses." When a witness speaks, all recognize that they have
been in another realm.
Sincerity and truth and power of spirit are just as measurable as inches and pounds but not in the same way."
It is ironic that experiences like alien abduction encounters, UFOs, Crop Circles, and near-death experiences are called
anomalies. In another words in our culture, what lies outside the realm of the cultural agreement, about what is real is
called anomalous.
Therefore a huge amount of human experience is called anomalous when I have discussed this with Native Americans,
and they say it is not an anomalous.
We know about this. It is part of the human experience.
Estabishing a new "worldview"
In the last minutes, I want to talk about matter of a worldview and how it works. It has always been referred to as a
paradigm and it has more of a scientific. But I prefer to call it worldview because it refers to something bigger. A
worldview is the way we organize reality. It is the way we believe things work. In a way it is like an instrument of
navigation. Our worldviews is what holds the human psyche together. What I came to realize with that
Harvard Committee was that I was threatening the scientific medical world View by which they were living..
What has been the dominant worldview in our society could be called Neutonian-Carticianism or anthropocentric,
humanist. It is a worldview that puts the human being as top of the cosmic hierarchy of intelligence.
The simplest term for this is, is that which I call Scientific Materialism.
In this world view, matter and energy is the primary reality and there is no larger intelligence in the Cosmos .The
principle method of study is objectivitive reality which separates the investigator from the matter that is being
investigated. Now in recent years, this view, which has dominated our society, is failing. It is failing in every important
element that the worldview is supposed to serve. First there is a huge amount of phenomena, which it can not explain
nor deal with. There is no method of study for many things that we are talking about today.
Secondly, it leads to terrible destructiveness because it treats the entire planet as simply physical resources to fight
over by who are the most powerful and most important countries.
Thirdly, "scientific materialism" does not give human beings any real satisfaction. It leaves us without spirit and it
leaves us with an empty feeling. Because all it has to offer are more and more material things
Now we have new emerging worldviews that are different. In this worldview, there is intelligence dwelling in the
universe. That experience which happens to my clients is one example of the intelligence dwelling in the universe and
the beings that have come to my clients are another example.
The Crop Formations are also evidence of this intelligence that is trying to communicate with us. Also it is a model of
the universe and us in it which says that everything is connected with everything else and we know that "cutting edge"
physics is supporting this worldview. So it includes not only new ways of knowing but it also involves a spiritual
awakening.
This change which is happening around us is met with enmity and a great deal of resistance because there's a huge
psychological economic and political investment in maintaining the Old World view.
I will give you one examples of the UFO resistance because books being written which discuss this new paradigm are
being called "new age, psudoscientific, psychcentric in order to dismiss them as out of hand because some people who
write such books do not hold themselves responsible to any scientific standards what so ever.
I will conclude by speaking about the implications of this new worldview. We see around us all kinds of forces which
are supporting the emergence of this way of thinking.People around the planet are opening up to new ways of
thinking.Groups , like the GAUS (GRUPPO ACADEMICO UFOLOGICO SCANDICCI), are committed to the new
emerging paradigm.
How would this planet be different if the emerging world view became be the dominant world view?
We would be connected to all living beings not just those around us, and with all nature and spirit which would make it
impossible for us to treat nature in such a exploitative way. For example we would be able to identify with other
peoples, other religions and with all animals so we would not treat them just as products to consume. With this deeper
reality ,we could appreciate that we are connected to the Divine, the creative principle which would be more fulfilling
than the material focus that has been so dominant today.
So it would be global like a" global awakening of the heart."instead of global exploitation, a word that is has that
connotation today.
I might add "opening of the heart " has been a fundamental aspect of alien encounter experience I learned from my
dealing with experiencers.
Sometimes experiencers get information from these beings that we are not just a menace to the Earth but we are a
menace to the Galaxy .
In conclusion ,as this emerging paradigm this emerging world view, takes hold, we might become more responsible
citizens of a galaxy instead of becoming the eminent menace we appear to be!
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