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Recent panoramic image of the Martian surface made by Spirit's cameras is projected at rear.....Hmmm...Do we see 'blue' sky???? Mars Rover science team member Matt Golombek, right, talks about mineral and chemical testing that will be done as mechanical systems engineer Chris Voorhees, left, and project scientist Joy Crisp listen at a news conference at Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., Saturday, Jan. 10, 2004. NASA's Spirit, the first of two rovers to land on Mars, stood up to its full four-foot, nine-inch height and rested on its own six wheels for the first time. A recent panoramic image of the martian surfacemade by Spirit's cameras is projected at rear. (AP Photo/Reed Saxon) Copyright 2003 Associated Press. All right reserved. Europe can be proud of this mission: Mars Express is an ENORMOUS SUCCESS for the European Space Programme. CONGRATULATIONS!!!! Jason Martell has some great links on his site that everyone might want to check out as well on Water on Mars and the great work that Europe has done on this space project xfacts.com/water_on_mars/index.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ JEFF BIRKS MAY HAVE A NEW DISCOVERY ON THE FILTERS THAT NASA IS USING. COULD THIS BE THE BREAK WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR CHECK OUT OUR PIONEER RADIO CHATROOM DISCUSSION ON THIS DISCOVERY! January 26, 2004 Discoverer Jeff Birks http://pioneer.rolo.net <PhobosUK> this is new <PhobosUK> http://www.lyle.org/mars/imagery/color/128289489-6.jpg <PhobosUK> just not released yet <PhobosUK> now that is very odd <PhobosUK> they said yesterday that there would be no more images for that day <PhobosUK> yet this was added later on <PhobosUK> it was not there last night <PhobosUK> so why do they hold it back <PhobosUK> odd <PhobosUK> the 3 colour triset was not in the raw images folder <PhobosUK> - it is new <PhobosUK> yet it is in yesterdays folder <PhobosUK> so it is not one of todays images - they haven't started todays <PhobosUK> I guess opportunity is still dozing <PhobosUK> here is another thought <PhobosUK> L2 is the near IR filter <PhobosUK> I wonder ... <PhobosUK> L1 <PhobosUK> could it be IR ? <PhobosUK> if so where are the night pictures ? <PhobosUK> all of their colour triset's from opportunity are still L2, L5 and L6 with no L4's used <PhobosUK> eg. <PhobosUK> L2; http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle ry/all/1/p/001/1P128287268EFF0000P2303L2M1.JPG <PhobosUK> L5; http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/001/1P128287301EDN0000P2303L5M1.JPG <PhobosUK> L6; http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/001/1P128287324EDN0000P2303L6M1.JPG <PhobosUK> three images of the same thing with Near IR, Green and Blue filters <PhobosUK> where is http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/001/1P128287324EDN0000P2303L4M1.JPG ? ? ? ? * GTDoug has quit IRC (Quit) <PhobosUK> also <PhobosUK> http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/mer2004/rover-images/jan-25-2004/Pancam_Postcard_380.jpg <PhobosUK> that one does not seem to be in the raw folder even now <PhobosUK> looks like the raw folder is incomplete <PhobosUK> http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpegMod/PIA05149_modest.jpg <PhobosUK> maybe its just the old one cleaned up <PhobosUK> lots of examples of cracked rock there <PhobosUK> I wonder what happened <PhobosUK> looks like mars was subjected to an extreme temperature change at some point <PhobosUK> this is the best image form opportunity so far <PhobosUK> http://www.lyle.org/mars/meridiani.jpg <PhobosUK> this is one image that does use the red filter (L4) <PhobosUK> http://www.lyle.org/mars/imagery/2P126543484EFF0100P2705L4M1.JPG.html <PhobosUK> well, well <PhobosUK> it looks like that one has the usa flag and the nasa logo <PhobosUK> would you believe it PhobosUK> and it's a closeup with nothing from mars in the background <PhobosUK> if there was any of mars in the background we could fix this thing <PhobosUK> still ... <PhobosUK> at least we know L4 works <PhobosUK> just that they don't want to use it for some reason :) <PhobosUK> tracker <PhobosUK> I found another L4 image ! <PhobosUK> http://www.lyle.org/mars/imagery/2P126556727EFF0200P2205L4M1.JPG.html <PhobosUK> look at the lovely mars background in this one !!! <PhobosUK> this one is even more curious <PhobosUK> http://www.lyle.org/mars/imagery/2P126557146ESF0200P2110L4M1.JPG.html <PhobosUK> it's the sundial in L4 ! <PhobosUK> again no background but very interesting :D <PhobosUK> http://www.lyle.org/mars/imagery/2P126632659EFF0200P2899L4M1.JPG.html <PhobosUK> http://www.lyle.org/mars/imagery/2P126557603EDN0200P2113L4M1.JPG.html <PhobosUK> http://www.lyle.org/mars/imagery/2P126632830ESF0200P2899L4M1.JPG.html <PhobosUK> now we are talking <PhobosUK> I found one L4 of the soil <PhobosUK> http://www.lyle.org/mars/imagery/2P127334584EFF0224P2532L4M1.JPG.html <PhobosUK> typically there is no L5 or L6 to go with it mind : <PhobosUK> interesting <PhobosUK> when they use L4 on the soil instead of combining with L5 and L6 they use R3 and R4 <PhobosUK> I will look those two up to see what they are doing <PhobosUK> R3 = 800 nm, R4 = 860 nm <PhobosUK> green and blue need 530 and 480 so we cannot produce a proper colour image using the L4 <PhobosUK> I am finding other L4 surface images now <PhobosUK> http://www.lyle.org/mars/imagery/2P127438461EFF0309P2269L4M1.JPG.html <PhobosUK> this one has an L3 available but again no L5 or L6 <PhobosUK> this is the list of all pancam images <PhobosUK> http://www.lyle.org/mars/1074564425.html <PhobosUK> that is how I am hunting down what L4's they have taken so far <PhobosUK> there does seem to be a pattern mind <PhobosUK> they don't want to take L4, L5 and L6 of the same image <PhobosUK> not even the closeup of the sundial ! <PhobosUK> would you believe it <PhobosUK> not a single L4,L5,L6 triset in the entire collection <PhobosUK> they have used L4 many times <PhobosUK> the best I can do is use the L4 sundial combined with L5 and L6 from other trisets that include the sundial <PhobosUK> then it should be possible to create a near full colour image using L4,L5 and L6 of the sundial <PhobosUK> but they will need to be under similar lighting conditions <PhobosUK> with that we can compare the sundial image in true colour with the nasa released images <PhobosUK> you cannot correct the L2's, but you can prove that spirit can take true colour images if it uses L4,L5 and L6 <PhobosUK> sundial in L2; http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/002/2P126553017ESF0200P2100L2M1.JPG <PhobosUK> sundial in L4; http://www.lyle.org/mars/imagery/2P126632830ESF0200P2899L4M1.JPG.html <PhobosUK> sundial in L5; http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/002/2P126553049ESF0200P2100L5M1.JPG <PhobosUK> sundial in L6; http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/2/p/002/2P126553081ESF0200P2100L6M1.JPG <PhobosUK> whilst they are not part of the same triset, we can combine L4, L5 and L6 for the first real true colour image of the sundial on mars <PhobosUK> with that we can prove that spirit can indeed take pictures of blue objects <PhobosUK> - in full colour <BUFOmary> Hi jeff <PhobosUK> hi mary <PhobosUK> did you see the 3 colour images ? <BUFOmary> just taking a short break from work <BUFOmary> did you get my email <PhobosUK> yes, I have see that <PhobosUK> it could be caused by trapped heat mary <BUFOmary> you think so???? <BUFOmary> doesn't look like it to me. <PhobosUK> well it is possible <BUFOmary> it looks like a artificial structure of sorts <PhobosUK> yes it does <PhobosUK> but it could be naturally produced as well <BUFOmary> i don't know. <PhobosUK> we know that the surface seems to have a skin <PhobosUK> if an air pocket developed under the surface <PhobosUK> this is the sort of thing it may produced <PhobosUK> = may <BUFOmary> maybe...or it could be an artificial structure..smiles <PhobosUK> well, I have seen quite a few like this <PhobosUK> however <PhobosUK> craters often do have bulges in the middle <BUFOmary> it could be a dome. <PhobosUK> that is perfectly normal <PhobosUK> the dome shape is odd <PhobosUK> but mars does have a low gravity <PhobosUK> that may allow more fragile bulging <BUFOmary> yes...or it could be an artifical structure..laughs <BUFOmary> i guess we just don't know <PhobosUK> Mary, the grand canyon could also be an artificial structure ;) <BUFOmary> too early to tell. <BUFOmary> true <BUFOmary> chaco canyon <BUFOmary> the indians have the legend that during the great catastrophies they all went underground and lived <BUFOmary> until it was again safe to come out. <PhobosUK> Just saying that it has the apearance of a big bubble <PhobosUK> so maybe that is what it is <PhobosUK> trapped gas built up under a crater <BUFOmary> if their was a civilization on mars..many of them that could not escape may have done like the native american indians <PhobosUK> put it this way mary <BUFOmary> and went underground to live until it is safe again to come out <PhobosUK> if we were to build shelters on mars <PhobosUK> a dome in a crater would be a good choice <PhobosUK> the crater provide natural shelter from the wind <BUFOmary> yes..because the crater would protect the dome from the elements <PhobosUK> mary the coloursets <PhobosUK> you may find this interesting <PhobosUK> I now have L4, L5 and L6 images from the sundial <PhobosUK> NASA don't like taking true colour trisets <BUFOmary> i seen something on that when i came in before <PhobosUK> none of the images taken so far use all 3 of these <PhobosUK> however <BUFOmary> you will have to send me an email on it and I will put it on your page of spiritmars <PhobosUK> by combining separate images of the sundial I can make up a triset <BUFOmary> kool <PhobosUK> with these we can prove that true color images are obtainable <BUFOmary> well iam sure they are..and nasa has them <PhobosUK> we do this by making a real full colour image of the sundial using only images from spirit on mars <BUFOmary> it's just that we aren't getting them <PhobosUK> well <PhobosUK> if we can make up a true colour using nasa released coloursets <PhobosUK> then that proves they can do it too <BUFOmary> good. <BUFOmary> i will put that on the site.. <PhobosUK> they we need to force them to make a ground and sky triset using L4,L5 and L6 <BUFOmary> just send me somethng i can use so that the readers will understand what we are talking about <PhobosUK> I need to install photoshop to create the first true colour image from mars <PhobosUK> bobody else has done it <BUFOmary> kool <PhobosUK> not even Keith Laney <BUFOmary> good job...no GREAT JOB <PhobosUK> he used to work for Nasa and is on Richard Hoaglands team <BUFOmary> yes that is what you told me <PhobosUK> he has tried to produce true colour images but is going about it the wrong way <PhobosUK> this is the only way that will work <PhobosUK> the rest are all fiddles <BUFOmary> oh i would love to see you do it. <PhobosUK> how about that for an exclusive ;) <BUFOmary> can't beat it..laughs <BUFOmary> well we can always do another show on it too <PhobosUK> holger is another that could help <BUFOmary> BUT...if you want to email me the specifics...I can put it up on the site and date it. <BUFOmary> with your name <PhobosUK> ok, but I have to install photoshop <BUFOmary> and then it wouldn't make any difference you put it together it would still date it as your idea <PhobosUK> most of the work I do I manage with paint ;) <PhobosUK> well, it is intereting that Nasa are using the L4 filter <PhobosUK> but never in combination with L5 and L6 <PhobosUK> the sundial is the only object that has been imaged with all 3 <BUFOmary> what they do in their own little private photoshop is another matter. <PhobosUK> but even then not in the same shot <BUFOmary> iam sure they know exactly what the true colors look like SMUGGLING IMAGES FROM MARS <PhobosUK> Mary I did work something out recently <BUFOmary> what is that <PhobosUK> I know how they could have smuggled an image from Mars <BUFOmary> ? <PhobosUK> recently Spirit behaved very oddly <BUFOmary> oh ya <PhobosUK> it wasn't supposed to do it <BUFOmary> sure enough <PhobosUK> but it uploaded a big chunk of data <BUFOmary> so typical <PhobosUK> the data was said to be random noise <BUFOmary> right <BUFOmary> i remember <PhobosUK> that may just have been encripted images <PhobosUK> no software transmits random data without reason <PhobosUK> It's my guess that data contained images <PhobosUK> they cannot hide when spirit transmitts <PhobosUK> evey time it does so it can be intercepted <PhobosUK> however, this would be an easy way to sneak pictures out <PhobosUK> or data results <PhobosUK> and it was a fair bit too <PhobosUK> at 128k <PhobosUK> you could cram a lot in what they transmitted <PhobosUK> If I remember right it was a fairly large amount of data too <PhobosUK> enough for a lot of pictures <PhobosUK> the data would certainly have been recorded <BUFOmary> well i imagine they wanted to look at them first <PhobosUK> but only those with the decription software could extract the images <BUFOmary> i think it is called 'censorship' <BUFOmary> keep the good stuff for themselves and throw us the left overs <PhobosUK> well, we are in luck <BUFOmary> why <BUFOmary> how <PhobosUK> whilst this is not a true triset <BUFOmary> oh ya <PhobosUK> the sun angles are still close <PhobosUK> a triset is 3 colour images taken at nearly the same time <BUFOmary> well if everyone would work together on this project this whole thing could be blown this project this whole thing could be blown wide open <PhobosUK> the good news is all 3 are taken from the same locatin <PhobosUK> location <PhobosUK> so they will combine quite nicely <BUFOmary> great <PhobosUK> only the shadow will show signs of imperfection <BUFOmary> yes <PhobosUK> it should be a ver good match to what the human eye would see <PhobosUK> shame I can only do this trick on the sundial <BUFOmary> when are you going to get working on it??? <PhobosUK> not sure yet - work to do here <BUFOmary> i know <PhobosUK> but I have all 3 ready for combination <BUFOmary> not enough time in the day is there <PhobosUK> red, green and blue <PhobosUK> I also have the near IR for the L2, L4, L5 comparison <BUFOmary> i can't wait to see what you come up with! <BUFOmary> it is so exciting!!!! <PhobosUK> I will combine that too to prove I get the same result nasa do when the wrong filters are used <BUFOmary> I would just love to see you break this open! <PhobosUK> well I think Nasa know it's coming <BUFOmary> You will be my HERO! <PhobosUK> I spoke with the Space.com guy remember <PhobosUK> also Dr David Livingstone from the space show <PhobosUK> he now knows what I have found out <PhobosUK> If we can just get one true colour triset from NASA, ground and sky <PhobosUK> that said I don't expect blue sky that often <PhobosUK> they could just release a triset when the sky was reddish PhobosUK> but still, if we prove they should be using the true colour triset then at least we have a chance <BUFOmary> yes <PhobosUK> it will stop them releasing coloursets that don't include L4 <BUFOmary> laughs <BUFOmary> Can I print this??? <PhobosUK> L4 = Red <PhobosUK> yes <BUFOmary> great. <BUFOmary> thanks <BUFOmary> that way you have first discovery. <Phobocop> mary <Phobocop> I worked out somthing else <Phobocop> There is another trick that I can do <Phobocop> I have one L4 image that include the american flag <Phobocop> could be handy as comparison huh <Phobocop> usa flag using L2,L5 and L6 vs usa flag using L4,L5 and L6 <Phobocop> with both versions using images from spirit <Phobocop> I can also provide images of the same things taken from earth <Phobocop> there were calibration images of spirits sundial taken on Earth <Phobocop> (it's on the Nasa website) <Phobocop> so we can provide all 3 side by side <Phobocop> Sundial on earth true colour, nasa using near IR, and mars true colour <PhobosUK> mary <PhobosUK> I have something for you :) <PhobosUK> http://www.redrovergoestomars.org/images/dvd_spirit_l456_cropped_300x300.jpg <PhobosUK> made a copy on our website <PhobosUK> http://pioneer.rolo.net/images/dvd.jpg <PhobosUK> see this url for details how it was made <PhobosUK> http://www.redrovergoestomars.org/dvd_image.html <PhobosUK> this is the only know true colour image taken from mars - it has red, green and blue and it proves what I have been saying <PhobosUK> :) <PhobosUK> using sharpening tricks we have this http://pioneer.rolo.net/images/dvd2.jpg <PhobosUK> however you look at it we have proven our point <PhobosUK> now that is fine for the jpeg version <PhobosUK> however, I just so happen to have a tiff version too <PhobosUK> http://pioneer.rolo.net/\Images\spiritdvd.jpg <PhobosUK> that version is the clearest I can make <PhobosUK> Its from the tiff and converted to Jpeg in such a way that no losses are made during compression <PhobosUK> Finally we can prove the colour quality that the rover is capable of <PhobosUK> and this picture is from Mars so those that claim that the colour changes are something to do with the atmosphere are proven totally wrong now <PhobosUK> it clearly shows that spirit and opportunity have all they need to produce images that represent what the human eye would see <PhobosUK> all they have to do is use the right filters <BUFOmary> and of course they know this <BUFOmary> but now you have proven to the world their secret <BUFOmary> way to go jeff! <PhobosUK> with the right pressure maybe we can get images of the marsian landscape and sky this way too <PhobosUK> the camera can do it <PhobosUK> but will Nasa without pulling the plug ? Good Question Jeff... <BUFOmary> nasa will never let us know what is up there..until they absolutely have to. <BUFOmary> and that is to keep some other country from telling us first <PhobosUK> well if they start using L4 they can always be selective <PhobosUK> only showing the images of the sky when it has a redish tint <PhobosUK> but this may be enough to get a little more honesty out of them <BUFOmary> these guys don't know the word <BUFOmary> but you are right. <BUFOmary> power of the press keeps the politicians honest..why not nasa BELOW IS A PHOTO THAT JEFF JUST SENT ME BY EMAIL WITH A COMMENTARY THE ONE BILLION DOLLAR PHOTO! The public paid 1 billion dollers for all these pictures and this is the only one in true colour The following image is a lossless JPEG conversion of the only knowN TIFF image to be returned by the spirit rover using L4, L5 and L6 filters; I have a copy of this image at http://pioneer.rolo.net/\Images\spiritdvd.jpg Jeff . <PhobosUK> it's not even a fiddle <PhobosUK> this uses a L4,L5,L6 triset <PhobosUK> I am assuming the word triset is correct <PhobosUK> triset meaning three colour image set <PhobosUK> everyone was assuming either nasa was messing around with the red <PhobosUK> or the sky was affecting the colours somehow <PhobosUK> the true is Nasa were not using any red at all <PhobosUK> they replaced red with near IR <PhobosUK> but when they use red you see the real true colours <PhobosUK> you cannot see into the shadows as well <PhobosUK> but we don't need to for most images <PhobosUK> btw thats why they use near IR <PhobosUK> to "see" into shadows <PhobosUK> it also picks up temperature differences <PhobosUK> its like looking through night vision goggles <PhobosUK> a handy trick, but it distorts colour <PhobosUK> from now on when I talk to Nasa/journalists I will refer to the L2 images as distorted <PhobosUK> or L2 distorted versions <PhobosUK> ram home the colour distortion issue The more people refer to Nasa's colour images as L2 distorted, the sooner we get genuine true colour images like the one I have located, <PhobosUK> it would be very sad if after 3 months both rovers have died and that one image is the only undistorted image we have <PhobosUK> after all, it only shows the rover - you don't even see any of mars on it <PhobosUK> but it IS from mars and it does use spirits camera <PhobosUK> http://www.redrovergoestomars.org/images/dvd_mars/mars_panorama1.jpg <PhobosUK> it shows where the dvd is located on the rover <PhobosUK> it looks like it's being used as a compass <PhobosUK> I will need to dig deeper to find out for certain <BUFOmary> that is what i thought <PhobosUK> looks like this part of the rover was sponsored by Lego <PhobosUK> here is the dvd on earth <PhobosUK> http://www.redrovergoestomars.org/images/dvd_assembly_prphoto_250x211.jpg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ LETTER TO THE WEBMASTER FROM `ZAKK Hi, I have noticed similar cases with other photos from mars. They seem to be put together and are not at all the color they should be i.e. the flag is not blue but purple which only comes from dabbing red in the photos to produce the effect of a red atmosphere. If you ask me I would say that this is something we should look into. I have shown these photos to others and got several answers. One, the photos only come in pieces and must be put back together in order to form a complete picture. If this is the case why then only some are pieced together? The sky is red and there fore caused the flag to be purple due to the fact that the contrast of the sky bled into the other surrounding items. absurd answer but one that was given. And last but not least why are the photos blacked out in certain areas of only certain photos? Because the transmission was not received in whole and they tried to make the best of it. Certainly anyone with half a brain can see that something isn't right in this situation. More research and other countries going to do the research is in order. ~Zakk Hi Mary, I will most certainly put this email on forward to my group and would appreciate it if you might pop over and have a look and possibly post your findings on this if you have time. I have 373 members and they are all very interested in this. I also have a site that I would love to place a link to your site on if you don't mind. the addresses are below and thank you ahead of time. Have a great day ~Zakk www.groups.yahoo.com/group/strangeexperience www.strangeexperience.biz --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HERE SOMETHING FOR YOU JEFF! Laughs..Mary Article in the Sunday Times, Published by The Telegraph, London "The US space agency Nasa has been accused of doctoring its pictures of mars to make its surface conform to our impression of the famously red planet Nasa, it is claimed, digitally "tweaked" brown scenery to make it redder, and removed green patches to hide evidence of life. The claims gains credence after Nasa told New Scientist that getting the colors right is a difficult and subjective job", ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Mary, I have answered the questions below ... Jeff Birks From: jecombest To: marsoutreach Cc: Mary Sutherland ; Fred Woods ; George Filer Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 12:56 AM Subject: Mars - A One-color Planet? 1. How is it that everything on Mars has the same reddish-brown color - even the sky? Is Mars composed of only one compound which is reddish-brown in color? There are two primary reasons here. Mars is an iron rich planet, and much of the surface contains oxides iron (basically rust). This not only discolours the surface, but can also affect the sky colour when the fine dust is lifted into the atmosphere by the wind (surface winds are very fast on Mars due to it's atmosphere being on 1% as thick as ours). The other primary reason is that most of the images returned from Mars were taken using the L2.L4 and L5 filters. L2 is the near infra-red filter and when these filters are combined to produce a colour image the result is something that has a much greater discolouration effect on the final product than those that use L4 (red), L5 (green) and L6 (blue) filters. Interestingly shortly after this was pointed out out on Pio Nasa admitted the problem and did a policy change that resulted in more realistically coloured images - so far all the true colour images they have sent from Spirit and Opportunity have been of the surface with no sky images that I am aware of yet. Whilst we have had no sky images from spirit and opportunity that use the best filters for visual representation, we have had good true-colour images from the pathfinder mission - several of these showed blue skies and certain atmospheric conditions. 2. What caused those four colored tabs on the Rover Pancam Calibration Target to change color upon arrival on Mars (blue became red, and the green one became orange)? 3. How is it that the entire Rover and the air-bag assembly and frame all have that same reddish-brown color? 4. What causes the Martian sky to have the same reddish-brown color as the landscape? If that colorization is due to particles suspended in the atmosphere as a result of dust storms, wouldn't those particles eventually fall out of the very thin atmosphere and reveal its true color? I understand that the Surveyor mission The most obvious reasons are again twofold (this answer applies to 2, 3 and 4); Firstly when the lander arrived the camera needed to be calibrated for the particular lighting conditions of it's local environment. One of the first target images should have been the sundial so that calibration took place (that is the purpose of the dots on the sundial). As a result the first sundial images would have been out of calibration and the most discoloured. The second reason is as stated earlier - the use of the L4 (near IR) filter in place of the L2 (red) filter. There is a third reason, but this one may not be as significant (although undoubtedly there would be some). When a photograph is taken of a particular colour, what you are actually doing is capturing the light that is relected off it's surface. The colour of any light when illuminated by white light will be the light that was not absorbed by it's surface. The problem on Mars is as objects are not just illuminated from above, but also from reflected light from the neighbouring surface (and even light reflected of ai-born particles). The reflected light is not a white as the direct light and the result will be to shift all colours towards the red (the effect here is light shining a red light onto coloured objects at night - only the red objects show up, whereas the non-red just look like dim red objects). White light will still fall directly on surface objects, but this discolouration factor does still exist. So the answer to the question is likely to be a combination of all 3. 5. One of the first Spirit photos released by JPL (see attached document, "JPL Spirit photo w-Blue Sky") very plainly shows the Martian sky to be light blue. Why has every photo since then shown the sky to be reddish-brown? I have researched the image you point to and it may be a bit of a red herring. The photograph was not taken on Mars, but on Earth ! Let me explain, looking at the picture you refer to you see the JPL employees, and behind them the picture of the Mars surface with an apparent blue sky. Now we know these employees were not on Mars so only the picture behind them was taken on Mars, not the picture itself. So what we are looking at is a picture of a a picture - or more accurately a picture of a projection of a picture. This means that there are now introduced two levels of error, the first being that the photograph itself was probably slightly discoloured by using the L2(near IR) filter, the second would be due to the discolouration introduced by taking a photograph of a projection. In the picture we see that the colours of the faces are correctly balanced. Since it seems the photographers have adjusted their cameras to produce good flesh tones, it is very unlikely that the picture of the Mars projected image is accurately represented by the photograph - In other words the projection probably looked very different to the photographers. This makes sense as nobody at the room seemed to find anything different about the image shown to them. If they were shown a blue sky they would likely have asked why it was blue, but from what I have learned so far it would seem that this was not the case. 6. Your comments on the information in the following two paragraphs by George Filer is requested: We spent millions of dollars sending the Viking Lander I to Mars in 1976. The world waited in great anticipation to see the first color images of Mars. At about 2:00 PM PDT on July 21, 1976, the first color image from the surface of another planet arrived at JPL in wonderful color. Mars showed its beautiful BLUE SKY, brown and reddish soil and rocks with patches of green. We never saw the true images because they were colored orange according to the men who worked at the Viking Image Formatting and Processing section of JPL. Mr. Van der Woude says, "Both Ron Wichelman and I were responsible for the color quality control of the Viking Lander photographs, and Dr. Tomas Mutch, the Viking Imaging Team Leader told us he got a call from the NASA Administrator asking that we destroy the Mars blue sky negative created from the digital data." The images were then falsely reddened to make it appear there was no life, no green algae or lichen on the planet. See "Mars the Living Planet" by Barry Digregorio, Dr. Gilbert Levin and Dr. Pat Straat. Page 142 From Pathfinder we know that there are times when blue skies can occur on Mars. That leads me to suspect that this story is true and for reasons of their own they did indeed request that these images were not shown. That does not mean that Mars always has a blue sky mind - however it does seem possible that not everyone at NASA wants these images to be widely seen. I have pointed out that you can see Marsian blue skies on NASA's webstie, but you have to look carefully to find them, and they are accompanied by explanations which seem crafted as a good cover explanation for any stray blue sky images that are released. The real question is what proportion of the time is the sky blue - we know it can be blue, we know it can be red, we just don't know the ratios. Judging by the images release so far I get the impression that the blue sky images are less likely to be given out in the press releases. 7. The animated landing of the Rover posted on your web site shows (and voice explains) that the Lander-air bag assembly would - after bouncing several / many times get to its final resting place by rolling for perhaps the final 100m or so. The animation even shows a continuous but irregular "air bag track" leading up to the resting place. That the Lander-air bag assembly would leave an "air bag track" seems reasonable because it does not seem reasonable that the assembly could expend its final kinetic energy only in a unit equal to a bounce without some amount of rolling action. However, the photos provided by both Spirit and Opportunity show plainly that there is NO continuous air bag track leading up to either resting place. How could that have occurred? I have found what seems to be a trail of bouncemarks in the nearby crater. The discoloured surface near the lander is clearer, but any bounce marks beyond the crater would be harder to spot. 8. Sunday Drive of January 19th: The Rover Spirit passed up a very interesting dark-colored object (see attachment "05 Elliptical Rock, RectHole-2...") that definitely has the appearance of being some kind of artifact. Why pass up such an interesting object to go examine the rather plain Adirondack rock??? John E. Combest I too am interested in that object - It has the resemblance of a petrified log and so would seem worthy of attention. The object was also interesting enough to Nasa to name. From what I can find out the official reason for not closely examining the object was that it was dusty. I have thought about the official explanation and the best I can come up with is the following; 1. They may be concerned about drilling on dusty objects as this may shorten the life of the lander (stray dust particles are slowly bonding to the solar arrays which reduce it's ability to recharge). If this is a concern right now then I guess later on in the mission they will be more likely to drill on dusty objects (once the solar arrays reach a certain level of dustiness they become less likely to pick up fresh dust - the dust it's already collected to some extent protects it from more dust). 2. The stray dust may to some extent have a contamination effect on the sensitive equipment they are using. The drill was probably designed to minimise the type of contamination that would affect the tools it carries. By carefully selecting which objects they drill on in the early stage they are more likely to avoid contaminating the results with surface dust (the want to understand the dust, but they also want to know the composition of the inside of the rocks). Jeff Birks http://pioneer.rolo.net For the Petrified Log..go to http://www.burlingtonnews.net/spiritrover6 |
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