|Out of the Dragon's Lair
AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH SERGEANT CLIFFORD STONE
( Branton -- File No. 010 )
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 21:31:39 UTC
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In the Spring of 1989, UFO UNIVERSE published an article by Robert W. Boyajian, titled 'CONQUEST EARTH? - A SHOCKING LOOK INSIDE THE
GOVERNMENT-ALIEN EXCHANGE PROGRAM' (Exclusive Interview with Sergeant Clifford Stone, on assignment at Roswell, New Mexico):
"In the course of my UFO investigations, I established contact with Aileen Edwards, Director of the UFO Contact Center International, Seattle, Washington. For several
years, Aileen has been doing excellent work getting people released from mental institutions that do not understand the UFO contact or abduction phenomenon. Many of
these unfortunate patients have been given dangerous neurolytic drugs as means of 'treating' their 'illness.'
"As a result of our conversations, Aileen placed me in touch with Sergeant Clifford Earl Stone of the United States Army, who is currently stationed at Roswell, New
Mexico, which is near the site of the most famous crash-UFO case of all time which allegedly took place in 1947, and involved the recovery of several alien bodies by the
"What I have found out by speaking with Sergeant Stone can only be labeled 'sensational.' But before we get to the main body of our interview, I should point out that
much of his testimony can now be verified by others connected with the intelligence community. For example, recently there was aired on national television a two hour
special, 'UFO COVERUP - LIVE FROM WASHINGTON.' Among the most interesting features of this program were the on-the-air confessions of two mysterious
individuals whose true identities remain a secret, but who go by the code names 'Falcon' and 'Condor.' Their faces were hidden at all times, and their voices altered through
a muting device. From what I have discovered, however, Falcon is an OSI agent, while Condor is a scientist working for the U.S. government.
"On the show, Condor told of a deal the government made with the aliens: 'Essentially, the agreement says that we won't disclose your existence if you won't interfere in our
society, and we allow you to operate from a designated base in the United States.' It's in the state of Nevada, in an area called Area 51. Extraterrestrials have complete
control of the base. My understanding is that three different aliens of the same species has resided in the U.S. from 1948 or 1949 until the present day. The first alien was
captured in the New Mexican desert after its craft crashed. The alien, which was named EBE by the government was kept in captivity for three years and we learned a
great deal of information about the alien's race, culture and spacecraft. The second alien was part of an exchange program. The third alien was also part of an exchange
program and has been the guest of the U.S. government since 1982.'
"...this knowledge has long been classified at exceedingly high levels, and has not been released even though various court battles have been fought to obtain the truth under
the Freedom of Information Act. The much talked-about MJ-12 briefing document was a 'leak' made by sources unknown, there have been several others, and yet further
revelations have been promised by those working inside the 'establishment' who are convinced the public must be told EVERYTHING and NOW!..."
The interview between Mr. Boyajion of UFO UNIVERSE and Sgt. Stone went as follows:
"UFO UNIVERSE: In reference to Condor's statement about Area 51 in the state of Nevada, what do you personally feel about this in your studies?
"CLIFFORD STONE: I believe that the American people has a right to know what is going on...
"UU: Do you feel there's a war going on perhaps between different types of aliens?
"CS: Yes, I do. I believe what is presently termed the 'greys' may very well be the (entities) that the U.S. government has the pact with right now, and they are not
necessarily the 'good guys.'
"UU: Do you feel that these grey guys are evil?
"CS: Well...there are some things I prefer not to talk about. But I'll tell you this much. First, I believe that there is a God. And I firmly believe that God made man and all
intelligent life to be a free agent, to chose HIS own validity. Abductions are REAL. Abductions are taking place. People are being forced to undergo - partake in various
experiments - for whatever reason by our alien visitors.
"UU: What else would give you the impression that these guys are evil, cut and dry? Is there a case you can cite?
"CS: O.K., this is supposition. One gentleman who was doing research into it reported a military intrusion on an alien base, right here in New Mexico. Well, the military
tried to go in and take over the base (It was mentioned that a similar event took place in Nevada). Sixty-six servicemen were supposedly killed there. The aliens had the
base, it was an underground base and allegedly the military sent in some of their elite forces, probably equated to a Delta force, elite, anti-terrorist force, if you wish.
"UU: How did they find this base?
"CS: Well, it was part of the allegedly secret agreement that we would let them have bases, therefore we knew about the base. There was some type of argument that
broke out between our people and the aliens.
"UU: So there are many bases throughout the country?
"CS: There are rumors of many bases. Given that these stories are true, I think that they probably have 12 or fewer bases. The greys may have various, let's say, hideouts.
As far as actual full scale operational bases, there's probably 12 or fewer.
"UU: And where are you getting your information?
"CS: From, we'll say, other researchers that wish to remain sort of silent.
"UU: What position are you in the army at present?
"CS: I'm in an ROTC assignment.
"UU: How long have you been in the army?
"CS: Twenty years.
"UU: Your friends who remain anonymous are within the different services of the government I take it?
"CS: Well, for example, I was stationed at an Air Force base and one guy went and came to my home and identified himself as a fighter pilot and told me about an aircraft
that he was piloting. I believe it was over the Pacific Ocean. Anyhow, it got real dark all of a sudden. He reported looking up and he and the other crew members saw
what they described as a vehicle that was 3 miles long (Three miles in a circular expansion). As far as I know it stayed with them for 15 or 20 minutes and then went
straight over the aircraft and got out in front of them and shot straight up, out of sight.
"UU: Where did you derive the idea that our government is making deals with aliens? What gave you this type of notion?
"CS: The Snowbird document. This document refers to us making primitive contact with the aliens in 1959. On April 25, 1964, we managed to carry on a 3 hour
conversation which was the onset of the agreement at a base here in New Mexico. I believe that base was Holloman Air Force Base. The agreement involving an exchange
of technology and our silence. By going ahead and not having any interference with the aliens, in exchange they gave us the technology and we agreed to keep quiet about
their presence. That right there is sinister in itself.
"UU: How do you mean sinister in itself?
"CS: We have to go back to the abductions. For some reason they don't want the people to remember what happened. Well here you have people who had contact with
alien beings, who have lost everything. They've went ahead and have family problems, they've lost their jobs, a lot of them have become reclusive, they have mental
problems because they can't cope with what happened to them. They know that they've had some type of experience, but a lot of the time they would have nightmares.
They can't explain these.
"UU: Because it was repressed in their subconscious?
"CS: Correct. Maybe by design, or it may be just because the body's own self-defensive mechanism is trying to cope with something that is beyond it's comprehension...
"UU: What about the benevolent beings that are said to exist, who abide by higher laws that do not allow them to interfere - aren't they trying to help?
"CS: The good guys are, well, I like to refer to them as being nomadic. What you're talking about, about the non-intervention with other intelligent life forms is a universal
law. The nomadics go along with that. The greys violated the universal law.
"UU: What else can you say about the benevolent space beings?
"CS: They have a high regard for life. I believe, shall we say, 'the good forces,' they don't really want any interaction with us. They choose to just go ahead and just observe.
"UU: Silent guardians. So it seems what they're trying to do is balance what the greys imbalanced.
"CS: I would agree with that...
"UU: When you were describing that there are approximately 3 different types of hostile aliens from Zeta Reticuli, would you describe further what you mean by that?
"CS: At present time, I believe that the government has identified several groups. We break these down by EBE (extraterrestrial biological entities) type 1,2,3 - I think we
are about up to 7 that have been identified (however, as Lear and others indicate, these seem to fall into either the reptilian or human categories - Branton). Well...seven
types of space travelers, or inter-dimensional travelers, if you wish. When I refer to inter- dimensional travel, I am referring, utilizing the Einsteinian, Rosen, Bridges for that
travel... I'm going to tell you the situation as I understand now. The greys will eventually come forth and try to state that they created Christ. This is not the case. They did
not create Christ. Christ was and is a divine entity. He was sent here by the Creator, not the Creator of just the world, but the universe... I believe that they (the greys) are
involved with the actual cattle mutilations. Now there are some copycats, and the government tries to get mileage off the copycats, and the government may have even went
ahead and staged some - just to throw off the extraterrestrial connection.
"UU: Can you give more detail... regarding the greys, the subtleties ahead, and how to avoid any mishap?
"CS: You mean how to identify if your working with a good guy or bad guy? For one thing there are the religious (activities) the bad guys are not happy with. For example,
there was an instance where they tried to pick up a farmer...he started to pray and they couldn't take him aboard the craft... He kept praying and finally they gave up trying
to abduct him. There was also an incident in Vietnam where a UFO set down in a field. It terrorized some of the villagers, and there was a soldier who was out visiting his
girlfriend, who would later become his wife. Anyhow, he got tied up there and the UFO was trying to convince some of the people they should go. It wanted to take some
of the people. The soldier stood his ground and wouldn't let the entities do it. The M16 that the soldier had was impervious to the aliens, but the cross that he always wore,
and he always carried a Bible, they had regard for that. Finally, they gave up and decided not to try to take any of the people...
"UU: What type of mentality are we dealing with when we're talking about the secret deals made with ETs?
"CS: Let's go back and look at what happened as far as our deepening involvement at the onset of the Vietnam war. Take a look at what happened with the Iran affair. The
situation is that there are elements within our government that sometimes act all on their own without congressional restraints, which ultimately affects the entire American
population. In this case, it will ultimately have an affect on the entire population of the world. Up until about 1985, I would not have believed any of this. As a result of
coming into contact with the SNOWBIRD DOCUMENT, I am left with no recourse but to believe that we have made these agreements - rightly or wrongly. I believe
what is going to eventually happen is that they will make themselves known and immediately go ahead and try to destroy society as we know society...
"UU: On the broadcast 'UFO COVERUP LIVE', they spoke of an exchange program where we sent two of our guys up into their crafts. This aspect of the exchange
program, do you feel any of this is true?
"CS: It follows accepted diplomatic procedures.
"UU: What is the purpose of revealing this information at this time?
"CS: I think it's to try to prepare the American public for the ultimate disclosure of the existence of the alien beings. I think there is the effort for the good guys to make
contact with the people within our government, but I think now what is happening is that the U.S. government learned in 1983 or thereabout that they are NOT dealing with
the good guys, but really don't know what to do about it.
"UU: So how can they get out of this? What would your suggestion be?
"CS: Well, my suggestion would be to stand up to the greys. Let them know that this is a free society, that we are not going to sit back and let anyone - be they from outer
space or some other foreign country - convert the people of the United States.
"UU: You said that the government didn't know that they were dealing with the bad guys at first. How would the government figure out that these entities were evil? What
would make them think that? What would make them decide all of a sudden?
"CS: Let us suppose that we make a deal with a group of aliens. Among other things we agreed that they can have prearranged bases. We will provide security and we will
not acknowledge their existence to the general public. In return, they're going to go ahead and carry on certain experimentations, gathering various minerals, getting various
flora, various animal life. They're also going to go ahead and conduct some experiments or some research on human beings. Now this troubles us because we don't want
that to get out of hand, so we bargain a little deeper and we come to the agreement that, okay, if you abduct anyone we need to know who they are so that if there are any
problems in the future we can go ahead and take care of those people who may need medical or psychological attention, so we can assist with this. They say, fine, we will
provide you with say a list of all abductees. Later, we find out that they are providing us with maybe a hundred or two hundred abductions maybe every couple of months,
but we discover that the number is really into the thousands. We also find out that this scientific curiosity is also being used to tag these people, i.e. the implants, and we are
not being told why they are doing this. Now we no longer have control over the abductions. We might even find that there might even be a scarier aspect to it - let's say
some of these abductees appear to be 'sleepers,' there is some type of information that they're being fed, a post-hypnotic suggestion for lack of a better term. But don't
think that this is hypnotic at all - it's not. It is a very much advanced technological process. Anyhow, they are being told at a certain time, a certain place in the future, they
are going to be required to recall things that they are being told at this time, right toward the end of the experimentation or whatever is going on. However, alien forces want
this to be kept so secret that if you try to pull this out of them while they're under hypnosis, it will cause the body functions to become under stress.
"UU: Have there been any intervention with the benevolent beings in this matter?
"CS: I WOULD SAY THAT WE KNOW OF SEVERAL, SHOULD WE SAY, INTERGALACTIC FIGHTS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE - DOGFIGHTS.
"UU: An obvious dispute among aliens themselves? What do you feel was the outcome?
"CS: The good won. Right now I think that the good are trying to 'build up their forces.' I think the greys were very concerned about the crash at Roswell, New Mexico,
because we had something that they were identifying as a weapons system - and that was a very strong radar tracking system. They lost several ships to that. The aliens
initially, having identified that as a weapons system of ours, adjusted their craft so that the high powered radar would not cause on-board difficulties. The greys assisted in
keeping the story quiet about the Roswell incident without - how can I put this - 'open contact' with the government at that time (Note: This is conceivable as radar
operates through powerful electromagnetic rays and thus may have an adverse affect on a craft utilizing electromagnetic propulsion or operational systems - Branton).
"UU: Have you heard of such a thing as MIB or Men In Black in relation to such incidents as these?
"CS: Yes. There is a well known newsperson who was involved with the UFO crash here in Roswell in 1947. He had his life threatened if he tried to go ahead and break
the story. He's maintained silence ever since. He's talked a couple of times, but will never come out and fully tell the whole story.
"UU: Did any of the occupants make themselves known to our people at that time?
"CS: Here again, I'd have to go back to the reporter who was approached by an entity. And I don't think the entity that he was approached by was of this Earth. It was
your classic MIB saying, 'Look, stay out of this one!' Point blank he was told, 'If you try to break the story, you'll die.' Around that time we also started to lose jet aircraft
that were sent aloft to intercept UFOs. Most of the time these were written off as aircraft having malfunctioned that caused their crash. Some of the aircraft simply vanished
without a trace. One incident happened here in Roswell, probably early 1950s. The family still lives here. Two aircraft were sent aloft to intercept a UFO and make the
identification of the object as picked up on radar. One plane returned. To this day, one plane and a pilot never returned.
"UU: Is there any information in reference to the joint operations that such a govt.-alien alliance is doing beneath the Earth?
"CS: Supposition (is) there's a lot of genetic work going on down there. For example, there have been people who have claimed to have been taken to underground
installations where they observed comatose people in these underground installations. There are also reports of various vats with human parts. One woman reported seeing
what appeared as a very Earthly male who was in a vat of some type of fluid in one of the underground installations. Quite a few of the people have alleged that they have
been taken to these underground installations and have been kept there for days.
"UU: And why were they let free once they knew of such an installation, let's say, if they're trying to hush that up?
"CS: The vast majority, the man on the street isn't going to believe them anyhow. There are allegations that some are either military or working with the government that
were brought down there.
"UU: Are you saying that you are not very clear on what goes on down there? You've never met anyone who had anymore to say on it?
"CS: I'm saying I can't be very clear.
"UU: In other words, it's a little too intense to talk about?
"CS: Yes. I have an interest in UFOs and I've had to recently go through one heck of a battle with the military to express my first amendment right to voice my
dissatisfaction with the U.S. government keeping this information suppressed. There are certain things that even as a private citizen that I have to be very careful about
"UU: What part of the government would have jurisdiction in association with these aliens?
"CS: They would probably be the National Security Agency, they report directly to the National Security Council. As a matter of fact, it sets in on the National Security
"UU: Are there people within this agency that realize that they've gotten into a little mess?
"CS: Yes, I think so. I think right now those that are in the know are sort of divided as to whether they should go public or try to keep it secret. The TV show 'UFO
COVERUP', wasn't really well handled. They didn't really know how to go about bringing out the information that they do have. The situation is that of a programming
process, the government wanted some of that information to be released. That I feel is a fact. Now they took that program from Washington and they really wanted to see
what the reaction of the American society would be as a whole. How we would react to it. If the U.S. government ever comes forth and states - and eventually I feel within
a very few short years, possibly even months - they're going to have to do that. They're going to have to come out and say that UFOs are a reality.
"UU: I heard you were going to Germany?
"CS: I will be separated from my family for at least two years as a result of it. They were going to put me out of the Army because of my interest in UFOs. I want to stay in
right now - when I get out I want it to be my choice, not because they forced me out. Are you aware that this is a very, very hard subject matter? I mean it's so far out in
left field I avoid it...but I'll bring it up anyhow. Do you know that there are reports that some of the alien ships do a harvest of the souls? In other words, they feed off the
living energy, which is in fact the living soul.
"UU: Have you read Budd Hopkins' books?
"CS: Yes, I read both Budd Hopkins' books. Budd is very close to the truth, but the full truth is a horror story that is beyond any science fiction that you have ever read.
"UU: Are there entities of the more benevolent sort that are abducting people?
"CS: That's correct. What they do, I would say, that they have more of a scientific curiosity (referring her to the blondes? - Branton).
"UU: They have more of a compassion, you would say?
"CS: Correct. As a matter of fact, if there was a situation where you had a weapon that could kill them and they could not escape, other than do you harm, they would
permit themselves to be killed. The situation with the abduction cases, in dealing with the bad guys, is that they will go ahead and make a person try to recall the bad times
of their lives. Then the people relive those experiences, they go back to the way they felt when that experience was happening, they bring to mind the things they fear the
most, they bring this out because they actually absorb something similar to osmosis these feelings that they actually feed off of. (i.e. feed off of our fear? - Branton)
"UU: So you're saying that these particular entities that are working in this fashion are the very entities that our government made these deals with?
"UU: Are the people within these government installations who are working with these entities experiencing such traumas, or are they left alone?
"CS: I don't think that they are experiencing trauma because they need those people as part of the grand deception. Keep in mind, while they're dealing with them on the
physical plane they're also actually dealing with an interdimensional phenomenon.
"UU: Like an astral phenomenon?
"UU: ...Do you think that the government is dealing with two types of aliens?
"CS: I definitely think that they are dealing with two types of entities, but you've got to keep in mind one thing - the good guys are not going to give us anything to kill our
"UU: If you were to see this in an article, is there something that you would like to say?
"CS: Definitely. 'Shut me up and shut the other people up that are like me. Go ahead and have an unbiased congressional investigation into the UFO matter. Give across the
board immunity to any and all service members and civilian government workers who have any knowledge of crashed retrieval aircraft or underground bases to let them
come talk freely to a congressional committee on UFOs so that they might talk and clear the air. Get it out that UFOs are a reality. They are here now, they have
underground bases. If they go ahead and grant that immunity you'll have people come forth and talk. But they will not talk unless that immunity is granted. Now if I'm wrong
- go ahead and offer it, set up a committee, a congressional committee to hear all the evidence, weigh all the facts - then it's a put up or shut up proposition.'
"UU: Why haven't the aliens just simply infiltrated in relation to these government deals.
"CS: The U.S. government may believe that there's no defense and that they are highly evolved and technologically superior to us. There are those of us, however, that
firmly believe - or should I say know - that there are defenses against these folks. In unity there is strength. That strength is derived from knowledge. The knowledge that
must be had is the knowledge of the truth. With the truth we can go ahead and combat these entities..."
The following information was released by Leading Edge Research and describes some additional details concerning the serpent race/greys based upon the findings of
several researchers who have pooled their investigations in order to find out more about this apparent enemy of mankind. The following scenario emerged from this
cooperative effort (emphasis ours - Branton):
"NOTES ON ALF (Alien Life Forms): Term used by the government to describe the Greys in terms of being a MALEVOLENT life form. The deal with the Greys is that
their field around their body is different (from) ours to the point where merging of the fields ends up creating physical symptoms (the 'body terror' mentioned by people like
Whitley Strieber). The field around them is in direct opposition to ours. IT IS AN ANTI-LIFE FIELD... THEY ARE EXPERTS OF MANIPULATION OF BOTH THE
HUMAN BODY (THROUGH MANIPULATION OF THE FIELDS) AND THE HUMAN MIND. THEY REQUIRE BLOOD AND OTHER BIOLOGICAL
FLUIDS to survive. THEY ABDUCT HUMANS AND ANIMALS IN ORDER TO ACQUIRE THESE FLUIDS (i.e. being 'vampiristic' in their nature - Branton). They
implant small devices near the brain which potentially GIVES THEM TOTAL CONTROL AND MONITORING CAPABILITY. These devices are very difficult to
detect. The analysis of the devices by technical staff has produced a description that involves use of crystalline technology combined with molecular circuitry and these ride
on the resonant emissions of the brain and the various fields of the human (body). Information is entrained on the brain waves. It appears that all attempts to remove the
implants (1972) have resulted in the death of the human. They perform surgery and other operations on human subjects. These abductions continue to be an ongoing
matter. A list of abductees is provided periodically to MAJI, although IT IS KNOWN THAT MANY MORE ARE ABDUCTED THAN ARE REPORTED...
Various descriptions of the ALF's relate the following characteristics. Between 3 to 5 feet in height, erect standing biped, small thin build, head larger than humans, absence
of auditory lobes (external), absence of body hair, large... eyes (slanted approximately 35 degrees) WHICH ARE OPAQUE BLACK WITH VERTICAL SLIT PUPILS,
ARMS RESEMBLING PRAYING MANTIS (normal attitude) which reach to the knees, long hands with small palm, CLAW-LIKE FINGERS (various number of digits
- often two short digits and two long, but some species have three or four fingers), tough gray skin WHICH IS REPTILIAN IN TEXTURE, small feet WITH FOUR
SMALL CLAW-LIKE TOES... a non-functioning digestive system; TWO SEPARATE BRAINS; movement is deliberate, slow and precise; ALIEN SUBSTANCE
REQUIRES THAT THEY MUST HAVE HUMAN BLOOD AND OTHER BIOLOGICAL SUBSTANCES to survive. In extreme circumstances they can subsist on
other (cattle, etc.) animal fluids. Food is converted to energy by Chlorophyll, by a photosynthetic process (this supports results gained from autopsies at 29 Palms
underground base where it was seen that their 'blood' was greenish and the tissue was black). Waste products are secreted through the skin. The two separate brains are
separated by mid-cranial lateral bone (anterior and posterior brain). There is no apparent connection between the two (could one be an 'individual' brain while the other
works as a 'collective consciousness' brain? - Branton). Some autopsies have revealed a crystalline network which is thought to have a function in telepathic (and other)
functions which help to maintain the group consciousness between members of the same species. Functions of group consciousness in this species does have a
disadvantage in that decisions in this species comes rather slowly as the matter at hand filters through the group awareness of those who must make the decision..."
In relation to the above description of 'implant' devices, we will now quote from another short account which appeared in the N.A.R. (now L.E.R.) documents:
"...According to one source, Stan Friedman was either involved with or knew of the extraction of two spherical implants from two cadavers. The implants were examined
and opened. Inside there were crystalline structures which were then examined under an electron microscope. Inside the crystalline structure were micro-miniature
Friedman has according to some researchers held the same views as Jamie Shandera and William Moore, i.e., that the 'Greys' are actually 'benevolent' and the animal
mutilations, abductions, underground bases and similar scenarios do not exist. Since these men have allegedly been tied-in with the CIA, which in turn is--according to
many sources--now partially or mostly under the control of the alien-grey powers, such statements against the facts would be in keeping with an organization that has been
infiltrated via implantation, etc., by malevolent alien forces. Some suspect that Moore is either working for or being misled by certain members of MJ-12 to spread
disinformation, while at the same time still admit the existence of UFOs and 'Greys' which is now becoming impossible to refute, and also deny the malevolent aspects. This
suggests that in spite of the obvious predatory nature of the saurian greys, certain branches of the CIA are still abiding by the dubious 'treaties' which call for a U.S.
government's denial of the abductions, implantations, mutilations, and so on. NAR in it's May, 1989 issue, referred to yet another man who many believe is a blatantly
deceiving disinformation agent:
"Philip Klass, self-confessed UFO expert, gave his rendition of what UFOs really are on March 31 and April 1, 1989 at the Spring Valley Library in LAS VEGAS. Arthur
C. Clarke, science fiction author, called Klass's recent book 'UFO ABDUCTIONS: A DANGEROUS GAME', a 'welcome breath of sanity in a field where it's sadly
lacking.' Unfortunately for both Mr. Clarke and Mr. Klass, the sad fact is that the abduction process is neither a game nor has any degree of perceptible sanity. Many
doubt Klass, a former writer assigned to AVIATION WEEK AND SPACE TECHNOLOGY has any conception about what the abductions really involve. Many view
Mr. Klass in the same category as William Moore, who many believe to be employed by the Defense Investigative Service. Moore has, over the past year, been involved
in diverting attention away from real issues towards MJ-12 documents and other literary busywork, while thousands of abductees struggle to discover their true involvement
in 'alien' activities."
The following article, titled 'ALIENS ON EARTH', was written by the Rev. Anthony G. Pike, a United Kingdom correspondent for NICUFO. This article appeared in the
Fall, 1991 issue of 'UFO JOURNAL':
"...I have recently received inside information from a British Government source who states that Britain is the World Headquarters for the storage of alien bodies. At
present, there are about 300 alien bodies stored in various parts of Britain; of which, about 25 are in suspended animation. Throughout the rest of the world, however,
there are only about 60 bodies - including the USA! I then enquired as to the reason why so many bodies were stored in Britain rather than the USA. The answer was that
'Britain can keep a better secret'. You see, Britain has probably more secrets stored away than any other nation on earth, & has numerous laws preventing people from
gaining access to those secrets or publishing them through the media. This is illustrated in the fact that Britain has no UFO magazines available on the newsstands. However,
a few years back Tim Green Beckley attempted to put 'UFO UNIVERSE' out on the newsstands here, & it lasted for just 2 issues before the Government banned it. There
are also very tight restrictions on the media - remember, Britain has only 4 main TV stations; which makes it easier for the Government to (control) what goes out. There is
also a branch of M15 at the BBC who prevent any classified information from reaching the public.
I was told that the famous astronomer, Patrick Moore, was warned by M15 that if he wanted to get on in life he better keep quiet about the alien bases he's seen on the
moon. I was also informed that there are 1000's of live aliens among us on the earth; & that the aliens are divided up into 5 groups, ie. the human-looking ones, the 12 ft.
Giants, small cat-eyes (or vertical-slit pupiled reptilian-eyed beings such as the saurian greys - Branton), wiry aliens & gnome-type aliens. Many of the aliens, however, are
living in vast underground bases... Some of the more evil types, such as the 'Greys' are also working hand in glove with the US Government on advanced genetics & mind
control. This Secret Government is seeking to control & manipulate the human race for its own end (could this U.S. "secret government" cooperation with the British
Empire be tied-in with the allegations made by certain researchers that the 22 "Palladium" Masonic Lodges in charge of Illuminati world revolution originally were spawned
from the Grand Lodge of England? Actually A-ALBIONIC RESEARCH., Box 20273., Ferdale, MI 48220., presents much evidence that the Grand Masonic Lodge of
London and the Grand Jesuit Lodge of Rome have conspired together for centuries through the 'Illuminati' to take over the nations of the earth and acclimate them into a
'New World Order', including and especially the Christian Republic of America, since it's birth. - Branton)...
I was also informed that our galaxy is governed by a group of beings who one might call an 'Angelis Command Corps.' (fallen or unfallen 'angelics'? - Branton) In this
sector they generally meet in the Pleiades & Sirius. My Government source also says that he has personally seen about 50 alien bodies stored in the UK; & that he was
taken in a blacked out helicopter somewhere 'up North' to a laboratory run by the British Security Forces where he saw a set of 3 transparent coffins containing 3 giant
aliens about 10-12 ft. tall (could these be the human El-Anakim who are believed to have bases deep below the western U.S., Alaska and Mexico, etc.? - Branton).
However, the coffins are impregnable & the Government has been unable to break them open. I was also told that 13 sets of similar coffins have been discovered in
different parts of the world. Also, the TIMES newspaper last year ran a couple of articles reproduced from Pravda stating that giant aliens have landed in SEVERAL
locations in Estonia, Lithuania, & Hungary. In Hungary a whole regiment actually converged with the aliens face to face.
Timothy Good, the British UFO researcher, has been given three letters from the U.S. Government stating that in August 1992, the US government is planning to put UFOs
& alien bodies on a show to the public in the COSMIC JOURNEY EXHIBITION. I was also told that the calamities that are taking place are for the good of the planet
and are causing people to think about alternatives to the present system... I was told that this collapse of the old order will include a collapse of the PRESENT
MONETARY SYSTEM (a prelude to a 'New World Order' inspired by the reptilian greys? - Branton), the IMF & the WORLD BANK. The space people themselves,
say they have no frontiers, no passports, & no money. I was also told that the atomic bomb will be phased out; & that present day transportation & energy will be replaced
by the LINEAR MOTOR & ELECTRO-MAGNETISM. I was also told that there is a revolutionary new fuel which has been supplied by the aliens to someone in South
America who is now running his car on it. I also know that it is possible to run cars on ordinary tap water (there's someone in Australia doing it right now) & that all
diseases can be cured with simple H2O2 (water with an extra oxygen molecule on it) including AIDS, cancer, colds & tooth decay (H2O2 is excellent for brushing teeth -
it removes all plaque & decay instantly)... - further information on any of the above matters & much more can be obtained by writing to Rev. Anthony G. Pike., 141 Austen
Road., South Harrow HA2 OUU Middex, U.K."
The following list of 'entity types' seems to correspond partially with the list given in the above letter. This list of 'aliens' comes from the anonymous Intelligence worker
'Commander X', as he received them from John Lear and other 'inside' sources:
"THREE TYPES OF EBE'S (GRAYS): GRAY-1 - 3 1/2 feet tall. Large head. Large slanted eyes. Worship technology. Don't give a damn about mankind. GRAY-2 -
Same type, different finger arrangement, slightly different face. More sophisticated than Gray-1... May not need secretions (large-nosed or large-muzzled grays? -
Branton). GRAYS: Same basic type. Lips thinner. More subservient to other two grays.
"BLONDES, SWEDES, NORDICS: Known by any of these monikers. Similar to humans (although it is unknown as to whether they are related to any of the nationalities
mentioned). Blond hair, blue eyes. Will not break (so-called) 'universal law' of 'non- interference' to help us...
"INTER-DIMENSIONAL: Entity that can assume various shapes... (most likely fallen angelic. These often apparently utilize androidal forms, temporary energy forms,
forms constructed from restructured physical matter, or even physical 'shells' constructed in forms similar to grays, humans or other configurations - Branton)
"HAIRY DWARF'S: Four feet tall, 35 lbs. Extremely strong. Hairy (possibly a degenerate branch of humanoid Sasquatch - Branton).
"VERY TALL RACE: Look like humans but seven or eight feet tall. United with Blondes.
"HUMANS APPEARING SIMILAR TO BLONDES SEEN WITH GRAYS:...Child- like mentality.
"MIB'S: (Men In Black). Wear all black. Sunglasses. Very pale skin. Do nor conform to normal accepted patterns; Extremely sensitive to light..."
Commander X also related the following concerning the 'Inter- Dimensionals' who have obtained physical forms allowing them to operate in the physical world:
"...What the government didn't realize was that they (the Grays) planned to abduct tens of thousands of individuals, plant monitoring devices in their brains, and program
them with specific series' of responses to direct commands.
"The EBEs--also behind our backs--began to mutilate cows and other animals because they wished to use their tissues TO CREATE A GENETICALLY ADVANCED
RACE OF FLESH AND BLOOD ROBOTS. When the government realized what the EBEs had in mind, and wanted to back out of their agreement, THE 'ALIENS'
TOOK OVER SEVERAL UNDERGROUND BASES WHERE THEY HAD ALREADY INSTALLED UNDERGROUND LABORATORIES."
Again, in reference to the 'serpent races', John A. Keel, in his book 'OUR HAUNTED PLANET' (1968. Fawcett Publications., Greenwich, Conn.) has stated:
"...The parahuman Serpent People of the past are still among us. They were probably worshipped by the builders of Stonehenge and the forgotten ridge-making cultures of
"...In some parts of the world the Serpent People successfully posed as gods and imitated the techniques of the superintelligence. This led to the formation of pagan
religions centered around human sacrifices. The conflict, so far as man himself was concerned, became one of religions and races. Whole civilizations based upon the
worship of these false gods rose and fell in Asia, Africa, and South America. The battleground had been chosen, and the mode of conflict had been decided upon.
"The human race would supply the pawns. The mode of control was complicated as usual. Human beings were largely free of direct control. Each individual HAD TO
CONSCIOUSLY COMMIT HIMSELF TO ONE OF THE OPPOSING FORCES...
"The main battle was for what was to become known as the human soul.
"Once an individual had committed himself, he opened a door so that an indefinable something could actually enter his body and exercise some control over his
subconscious mind (this would be either the pure Spirit of Christ or the corrupting spirit of anti-Christ. Just as nature hates a vacuum, so does the human spirit. In other
words, what Keel is saying is that the human spirit cannot work entirely of it's own, but is a channel or a vessel of 'other' powers, whether good or evil. The act of 'free will'
which is given to man is a 'choice' over which of these powers to submit to, and to accept personal responsibility for that choice - Branton).
"...the Serpent People or Omega Group, attacked man in various ways, trying to rid the planet of him. But the superintelligence was still able to look over man... God
worked out new ways of communication and control, always in conflict with the Serpent People."
One of the classic examples of combined interaction between the physical Serpent Race and the other-dimensional 'Infernals' in a common cause is given in the case of
Brian Scott. According to Commander X, the area where Scott was abducted within the Superstition mountains of Arizona contains an underground base where, he
alleged, at least five individuals had been abducted (to the underground base) that he is aware of, Brian Scott being one of them. The Superstition mountains are notorious
for the many bizarre deaths and be-headings that have taken place there. Many have alleged that in certain parts of this wasteland a sudden force or irrational impulse can
come over a person and cause them to suddenly turn against others in their party. There have been several cases where strange 'voices' have driven treasure-hunters insane
and, in some cases, driven them to kill their partners. Even though the following account does not specifically mention the underground base described by Commander X,
other sources who have talked to Mr. Scott do suggest that an underground installation was involved. Brad Steiger, in his book 'THE UFO ABDUCTORS' (1988.,
Berkley Books., N.Y.) describes Brian Scott's experiences as follows:
"...Scott's first abduction reportedly occurred in the Arizona desert near Phoenix in 1971, and he claimed that another had just occurred on December 22, 1975, in Garden
Grove, California. In between, Scott said, there were three other terrifying sessions with the aliens and repeated visits to his home by balls of light and a transparent being
that called itself the Host.
"Incredibly, Scott found that a friend of his was already inside the craft. The two of them were taken into a small room that began to fill with a fog or a mist. Then they were
confronted by four or five 'very horrifying' creatures. Scott described them as having gray skin like that of a crocodile or a rhino, with a thicker patch of hide over the front
torso... The beings were seven feet tall, according to Scott, and... had three fingers and a thumb kicked over to one side."
Steiger then records a conversation between Scott and researcher Timothy Green Beckley:
"TIM BECKLEY: What happened on the day when your wife was sent to the hospital?
"SCOTT: She had been to work, pretty much handling everything that was going on around her. Then I got a call that she wasn't feeling very well. I brought her home, and
after about fifteen minutes of sitting there talking with her, she was saying several things, none of which made any sense to me or to her. She said that she had been in the
bathroom and suddenly felt hands all over her body. It was as if someone had broken into the house and molested her. When she calmed down and started making
explanations to me about what the hell was wrong with her, it was as if, from her description, the guys I had seen aboard the craft in 1971 had visiter her. This is odd,
because she has never even seen any sketches that I made of those entities.
"BECKLEY: So this was an actual materialization--if you want to call it that--of the entities in the house?
"SCOTT: I don't know what is was.
"BECKLEY: But she was so upset that you decided to take her to the hospital?
"SCOTT: Later that evening, it seemed as if she was okay. I was on the phone, and the baby was getting into everything so I couldn't carry on the conversation. I got up
and went looking for my wife. I heard a bumping sound and a moan coming from the bathroom. My wife was on the floor, hyperventilating. I got her up and onto a chair in
the living room. I was on my way to call her mother when she just fell flat on her face. I called the paramedics, and while they were on the way, she got up and fell down
again. Then she began to become hysterical. It took four paramedics to hold her down. She was throwing people around as if they were tissue paper. Guys were thrown
backward against the furniture. Finally they loaded her up in the ambulance. I came back in the house, and the baby was not in the playpen. I panicked, because I couldn't
find our one-year-old baby who got out of a playpen!"
"Tim Beckley asked Scott about the Host. 'There is one entity that comes through that calls itself the Host, whatever that means,' Scott attempted to explain. 'It speaks in
what sounds like some kind of computerized language. The voice seems to come out of me, an inner voice that is not mine. The entity says that I am one with it. It says, "I
am; I am" or "You are one with me." When asked if it has a name, it will just come back and say, "I am; I am." (Note: According to Judeo-Christian teaching, as we read in
the events surrounding Moses' ascent of Mt. Sinai, Almighty God alone can honestly profess that 'I Am that I Am', which in the original Hebrew means that He alone is
self-existence and not dependent on an outside force, as all other created beings are, and therefore is 'God'. The events of molestation which took place against Scott's wife
would indicate that 'the Host' IS NOT God, and therefore, as is the nature of the Infernals and the Serpent Races, it irreverently seems to blaspheme Almighty God with
such statements as 'I AM' - Branton)
"'The other night we heard some strange sounds coming from the bedroom. I began to speak in a foreign language that we later found out was Greek. Where that came
from, I don't know. I wrote in Greek BACKWARD. On top of that, I was writing with my left hand, and I am right-handed.
"'This voice was talking. We asked who it was, and the name Ashtar came out.
"'Then it began to use the name Ashtar and speak to my wife. It told her things about her past that only she could know. This went on for a while, then it went on to say it
would give her all the money in the world. It only wanted one thing in return--her soul.'
"Beckley pointed out," Steiger continues "that is sounded as though diabolical entities might be coming onto the scene, attracted by the extreme vibrations. He also
observed that ASHTAR sounded very much like ISHTAR, an ancient Babylonian goddess (Note: Ashtar-oth was also the legendary 'consort' to BAAL, the ancient
Chaldean 'god' two whom the ancients offered up human sacrifices - Branton).
"...Beckley asked J.D. (an investigator associated with a civilian UFO investigations group who studied the Brian Scott incident) how he would differentiate between what
may have originally been an abduction case and the various types of poltergeistic phenomena that now seemed to prompt Scott's resultant trance state. Are they one and
the same? Are they closely related mysteries? Or are they entirely different aspects of a more general phenomenon?
"J.D. indicated that he was aware that there had been other cases such as Scott's. The manifestations of balls of light streaking through the homes of contactees and
abductees apparently are more frequent than many investigators realize.
"J.D. mentioned that one voice, a horrible voice, came through and claimed to be Beelzebub, the Devil. J.D. was convinced that the entity was simply trying to frighten
away the investigators." (we wonder - Branton)
Aside from the 3-fingered, 7 ft. tall 'Crocodilian' creatures encountered by Brian Scott, there was another group involved in his abductions as well. According to Steiger:
"...The secondary group was composed of beings who were small, with frail bodies, milky white skin, large bald heads, thin lips, and enormous eyes... supposedly this
group, perhaps from the sixth or seventh planets around the star EPSILON BOOTES, placed a satellite in orbit around our moon... the taller... entities from 'time beyond
all time,' have the power to veto actions planned by those beings of the secondary world..."
In reference to the supposed 'mission' these creatures had chosen Brian Scott for, Steiger states:
"...Scott was to design a transportation technology that would move matter through space. He was to master quantum displacement physics and begin to develop a mind
transference machine TO BE USED TO UNITE ALL HUMANS. Such a machine would help to develop a philosophy of cosmic brotherhood (as well as kill all
personality, individuality and privacy among humans - Branton). The above tasks, of course, would seem impossible for a combination of Einstein and Superman, but they
are typical of the type of grandiose mission(s) assigned to so many contactees and abductees."
"...The Master Ashtar appears in much of UFO contactee literature. One cannot help noting the ancient origin of the name Ishtar, Ashtar, Asta, described always as a god
of evil and negativity in the Bible... Ashtar seems to belong more to the contactees than the abductees, but there are instances where those who claim to have been
forcefully taken aboard UFOs describe an interaction with beings who represent themselves as emissaries of 'Ashtar's Grand Plan.'"
Brian Scott seems to have encountered the same 'Lizard' like or 'Crocodilian' sauroids describes by others, the gan-greenish coloured creatures who are often described as
being nearly 7 ft. tall, with reptilian features, and who are believed by many to be the overlords of the large-nosed and common 'Greys', being second only in hierarchy to
the pterodactylin 'Mothmen' and of course the 'infernals' themselves, of which the so-called 'Host' seemed to have been a part. Following are still other documented
encounters with different branches of this apparently hominoid-saurian race:
Arkady Leokum, writing in a nationally syndicated news article called 'TELL ME WHY', revealed some important facts about the ancient Saurians. His article, titled:
'DINOSAURS DEVELOPED FROM REPTILES', stated the following:
"...Since dinosaurs were reptiles, they must have developed from reptiles that lived before them.
"The first dinosaurs to develop resembled their reptile ancestors, who were like lizards, AND WHO COULD WALK ON THEIR HIND LEGS. Some kinds remained
small, but others grew heavier and longer.
"In time, many of them were 6 to 8 feet long. There was even a few 20 feet long and weighing as much as an elephant. They had small heads and short, blunt teeth, which
were only good for eating plants. They lived in low, swampy places.
"Then came the next period, the Age of Reptiles. Some of the plant-eating dinosaurs became so large that even four legs couldn't support them on land. They had to spend
most of their lives in rivers and swamps. One of these giants was the brontosaurus, 70 to 80 feet long and weighing about 38 tons!
"At the same time, other dinosaurs were able to walk about on land. One of these, allosaurus, was 34 feet long, had sharp teeth and claws, and fed on brontosaurus and
other plant eaters.
"So, dinosaurs were a stage in the development of the reptiles.."
This article strongly suggests that the dinosaurs and other reptiles (including amphibians?) were/are an extremely adaptable race, capable of mutating to an incredible degree
to "fit in" to whatever environment these creatures found themselves in. Also, the fact that some "dinosaurs" became sea-going beasts suggest that ALL (both reptilians and
amphibians) may have originated from a single group of 6-8 ft. long bi-ped lizards which roamed the earth in ancient times.
There are indications that the original 'Nachash' or 'Serpent' of Hebrew tradition and history possessed both reptilian, draconian as well as amphibian features, and was in
fact a hominoid creature. Even today, reptilians and amphibians possess similar characteristics scales, claws, webbed appendages, etc. Scientists tell us that snakes,
pleseosaurs (such as allegedly dwells in Loch Ness in Scotland, former home of the satanist Aliester Crowley who expressed his own fascination with the 'beast' of the
Loch) and other aquatic or semi-aquatic reptiles--and amphibians--once possessed lizard-saurian like limbs before taking up an aquatic or semi-aquatic existence, after
which the limbs became atrophied. This may explain why AMPHIBIANS of hominoid form have, like their reptilian counterparts, been seen on occasion, and have even
caused serious physical injury, unprovoked, to witnesses on the scene.
The following accounts, which appear in 'CURIOUS ENCOUNTERS', by Loren Coleman (Faber & Faber., Boston, Mass. 1985) pp. 70-76, describe encounters with
reptilian and/or amphibian hominoid or bi-ped creatures of a semi-aquatic nature. We might conclude, based on the above, that the following accounts may involve yet
another branch or branches of the "Serpent Race" which, although extremely adaptable like a mutating virus, nevertheless may have had a common root in the
upright-walking lizards that preceded the dinosaurs thousands of years ago. The author's reference to "Bigfoot", at least in these cases, refer to the reptilian-amphibian
hominoids that have been observed, and should not be associated with the "hairy giants" or humanoids who, unlike the creatures described here, are apparently part of the
human family. Loren Coleman describes some encounters with these non-human beasts which have taken place near the west coast:
"One classic Bigfoot story, (discussed in some detail in MYSTERIOUS AMERICA) namely, the Wetzel/Riverside, California sighting on 8 November 1958, CLEARLY
FITS THE REPTILIAN MODE better than the anthropoid one. Wetzel described, as you may recall, the fluorescent- eyed 'thing' as having a protuberant mouth and a
body COVERED WITH SCALES, looking like leaves. Wetzel's 'thing' emerged from the Santa Ana River underbrush.
"The connection to water is a strong theme in all of these accounts so it is not so surprising that the next puzzle comes from the lake monster file. Trekking up the West
Coast, the following report concerns a monster that actually looks like it stepped out of the wardrobe room of the Black Lagoon movie.
"Thetis Lake is near Cottonwood, British Columbia, not far from Victoria, Cadboro Bay, off Victoria and Vancouver Island, (and) is well known for the perennial sea
monster 'Cadborosaurus.' So understandably a new creature in the neighborhood would be grouped under the same type of facade by the press. But the Thetis monster
appears to be something else altogether.
"On 19 August 1972 Gordon Pike and Robin Flewellyn said a five- foot-tall animal appeared on the surface of Thetis Lake AND CHASED THEM FROM THE
BEACH. Flewellyn was CUT on the hand by six razor-sharp points atop the monster's head. A Royal Canadian Mounted Police officer was quoted at the time as saying:
'The boys seem sincere, and until we determine otherwise we have no alternative but to continue our investigation.'
"The next Wednesday afternoon, 23 August, the Thetis Monster was encountered again. Mike Gold and Russell Van Nice said they saw 'it' around 3:30 P.M. and on the
other side of the lake away from the recreation area of its first appearance. Mike Gold noted: 'It came out of the water and looked around. Then it went back into the
water. Then we ran!' He described the creature as 'shaped like an ordinary body, like a human being body but it had a monster face, and it was all scaly (with) a point
sticking out of its head (and) great big ears.' It was silver.
"The Thetis monster account sounds similar to one from Saginaw, Michigan, occurring in 1937. A man-like monster climbed up a river bank, leaned against a tree, and then
returned to the river. The fisherman who witnessed this appearance suffered a nervous breakdown. This Saginaw tale, the reports of clawed and three-toed prints from
Wisconsin to Missouri, and other supposedly 'Bigfoot' or 'manimal' encounters perhaps should be reexamined in light of the REPTILIAN creatures from the Black Lagoon.
"The big Deltox Swamp, Wisconsin flap, investigated by Ivan T. Sanderson in 1979, for example, has always been shelved with Bigfoot reports. But what is to be made of
the tracks of the creature, like footprints of 'a good-sized man with swim fins.'
"This trait is a more frequent characteristic in the so-called eastern Bigfoot reports than you might realize. For example, there's the case of the creature of Charles Mill Lake
in Mansfield, Ohio. A green-eyed, seven-foot-tall, seemingly armless humanoid, seen late in March 1959 by Michael Lane, Wayne Armstrong, and Dennis Patterson, came
out of the lake and left behind 'tracks that resembled the footgear worn by skin divers.' The thing was seen again in 1963 and described as 'luminous and green-eyed.' I
examined the site of these encounters and can testify to the Charles Mill Lake's swampy affinities--certainly a good home for a Black Lagoon beast...
"In 1973, during the summer, residents of New Jersey's Newton- Lafayette area described A GIANT, MAN-LIKE ALLIGATOR they had seen locally. Newspaper
reporters wrote about an old Indian tale from the region that told of a giant, man-sized fish that could never be caught. In 1977, New York State Conservation Naturalist
Alfred Hulstruck reported that the state's Southern Tier had 'a scaled, man- like creature (that) appears at dusk from the red, algae-ridden waters to forage among the fern
and moss-covered uplands.'
"The New York-New Jersey recor